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A Post-Meetup Memo

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Kirby Urner
6 min readApr 18, 2024


[ from a public archive, typos fixed ]

  • From: kirby urner <kirby.urner@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: math4wisdom@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:46:05 -0700

Kirby and Daniel, I myself found it more daunting, how to connect with
you! Kirby, I exhausted myself, trying to suggest projects that we could
do together, and give up. Daniel, I appreciate your many talents and
interests, and I made an effort to connect with them, but after
two-and-a-half months, I didn’t feel that I was in touch with what you care
about or how we could work together.

I appreciate your storytelling Andrius. You have an illuminating take on
things which I’ve continued to take in, as one more perspective (and if
it’s “absolute truth” then that’s interesting as well, though not an up
front requirement (I make no claim to have need of or desire for such a
filter)). I hope my stories have standing as well, at least among some

Long before I decide “whether” (e.g. “whether x is true”) I have to know
“what” it is we’re talking about. “What” (aka “WTF!?”) might take awhile. When each of us is born, we get a first…